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Monday, October 21, 2019
Stoicism and Religion II
In the last post, I concluded that Stoicism isn't a religion, but could be religious, at least in a sense. But is that truly the case?
I think that strictly speaking it can be if we use "religious" according to its dictionary definition as set forth in Merriam-Webster online. A Stoic certainly can be devoted to a deity or underlying reality (the vague "Divine Fire" or "Divine Reason"). We can and do say that someone who believes in God is religious. But the "God" commonly referred to when we say that word isn't an immanent "God" of the kind we find referred to by the ancient Stoics or other pantheists, nor is it the "god of the philosophers" we see referred to often enough even by those ostensibly devoted to institutional religions.
Who and why the reference is made is interesting, however, and indicates that the meaning of "God" is dependent on that who and that why. Christian apologists, theologians and philosophers throughout history have managed to maintain that the "god of the philosophers" or something very much like that "god" is, in fact, the Christian God. When they do that I think they necessarily must disregard Jesus as he is depicted in the Gospels, though (despite the Gospel of John's use of the word "logos" which must then, perforce, be made flesh and walk among us--something it's rather hard to imagine logos doing). Nor is it possible to claim that the Christian God as he is actually worshiped in Christian churches is the god of the philosophers, if the ceremony of worship is considered.
And so I wonder whether it is entirely honest, if it is disingenuous in other words, to claim that Jesus is the god of the philosophers as is attempted from time to time. Maybe those who do that are like some of the ancient philosophers who claimed that people should engage in the traditional worship of the gods despite the fact that the myths pertaining to them were silly at best.
If worship as ceremony, or ritual, is required for one to be religious, however, it would seem that a Stoic would not be religious. Western history would seem to establish that worship is communal, something that groups of believers participated in generally at regular times and in a particular manner. That was the case as far as I'm aware in pre-Christian and Christian times. The ancient mysteries involved ceremony and invocation in group settings; sometimes large groups as in the case of the Eleusinian mysteries, sometimes in very small groups (the temples or caves in which devotees of Mithras would meet suggest 20 to 50 men would participate in worship). Pagan worship involved parades and feasting and rituals of various kinds. Christian worship certainly is communal, though one hears of hermits and folk who lived on pillars and other ascetic extremes, but these are rarities, and meant to be.
I find it hard to picture Stoics gathering for any similar purpose. For that matter, I find it hard to imagine what they would do. I personally am adverse to religious gatherings and ceremonies of any kind, though I've noted before my sentimental fondness for the old Catholic ritual. This is one of the reasons I avoid not only Catholic but other Christian, and even Unitarian gatherings (from what I hear, Unitarians are similar to Christian church gatherings, with singing and reading from I'm not sure who--perhaps the New England Transcendentalists). The only current non-pagan form of worship I can think of that might be tolerable would be Quaker, where it seems nothing is required beyond silent contemplation unless someone gets the urge to testify--which I like to think would be infrequent. As for the so-called modern pagans, I suspect that Wiccans, Druids etc. do whatever they do in groups and that some sort of ceremony and liturgy is involved.
Are there any forms of worship engaged in by Stoics, or pantheists, or panentheists? If so I don't know. And this makes me wonder whether worship of such a kind can be, and also wonder whether it is possible for them to be considered religious.
Monday, October 7, 2019
Stoicism and Religion
I find myself wondering, now and then, whether Stoicism can be considered a religion, and for that matter whether it should be considered religious. The answers I encounter when I read those who have addressed the question--those I've become aware of, I should say--are generally to the effect that it can be religious, but is not a religion.
This makes sense if "religion" is defined as a an organized system of beliefs, ceremonies and worship of a superhuman being or beings, i.e. something in the nature of the institutionalized religions with which we're familiar, and "religious" as relating to a devotion to an ultimate reality or deity (I take these definitions, roughly, from Merriam-Webster online). Despite its growing popularity, Stoicism as far as I know has not become institutionalized or organized to such an extent, and certainly ancient Stoicism, at least, accepted and was devoted to an ultimate reality or deity, that being the Divine Reason. That deity may even have been worshiped in a sense. I think of the Hymn of Cleanthes.
In fact, some ancient Stoics seem even to have thought of the deity as personal, as having certain human characteristics and being concerned with humans as individuals. One sees this tendency sometimes in Epictetus and Seneca. The early Christian Fathers were fond of Seneca, and could only be so if they saw in his writings some reference to a personal God--though one must be careful in coming to such a conclusion, as the early Christians, like later Christians, would assimilate pagan philosophy in various ways when it suited their purpose to do so.
It seems clear enough that Stoicism need not be a religion, nor need it be religious. Indeed, it may not even be a philosophy, in the ancient sense of wisdom and choosing the way in which to live. We know that the wisdom of Stoicism is fundamental to modern psychological therapy such as CBT.
Well and good. But I confess to feeling a bit disturbed when I see Stoicism used by, and associated with, the worlds of business and the military. I've no doubt that Stoic techniques can have their uses in those worlds, but the great Stoics of the past were not interested in Stoicism as a path by which success in business could be obtained, or as useful in the development of good soldiers. I think it's quite clear that the Stoics would consider success in business and in war as being the result of an undue concern with matters and things outside our control, regarding which we should be indifferent at most.
Whether it is or is not necessarily a religion or religious, should it be one or the other? I think we humans have had and have now more than enough in the way of organized religions. It isn't clear to me that they've done us much good, overall, and it is clear to me that they've been responsible for a great deal of harm. Once organized as a religion, I think even Stoicism would lose much of what makes it wise and beneficial.
I do think it should be religious, though, for reasons I hope to explain. This may be nothing more than an indication of personal preference or desire.
Let me say, first, that I use "religious" here much as it is defined by Merriam-Webster as noted above. If Stoicism posits the existence of a Divine Reason that is the intelligence or generative influence infusing the universe, and if this spirit is immanent in nature, then I think a "religious" feeling results. How is it possible to contemplate the vastness of the universe and all it consists of with anything but a sense of awe, and with reverence? And if acting in accordance with Nature consists of being in accord with the universe, it would seem that by devoting ourselves to Nature is a devotion to the divine that's immanent in the universe.
It may be that in thinking or feeling this way I'm in a minority, because I haven't been able to find any author who sees this as essential to Stoicism, or deals with the religious aspects of Stoicism to any significant extent. I understand Ricardo Salles addresses this somewhat in his work, but his book on it is so expensive I've haven't had much of an inclination to buy it.
One sees the Stoics referred to as pantheists, or the Stoic view of the universe as panentheistic, but these reference are made in passing, and left unexplored, as if there is nothing more to be said. For that matter, one sees "modern paganism" called pantheistic, even by its adherents, but those who think of themselves as Wiccan, or Druids or Heathens seem ignorant of Stoicism and ancient philosophy generally.
Surely there's a religious kind of Stoicism in evidence somewhere? Prepare ye the way of the Divine Reason!
This makes sense if "religion" is defined as a an organized system of beliefs, ceremonies and worship of a superhuman being or beings, i.e. something in the nature of the institutionalized religions with which we're familiar, and "religious" as relating to a devotion to an ultimate reality or deity (I take these definitions, roughly, from Merriam-Webster online). Despite its growing popularity, Stoicism as far as I know has not become institutionalized or organized to such an extent, and certainly ancient Stoicism, at least, accepted and was devoted to an ultimate reality or deity, that being the Divine Reason. That deity may even have been worshiped in a sense. I think of the Hymn of Cleanthes.
In fact, some ancient Stoics seem even to have thought of the deity as personal, as having certain human characteristics and being concerned with humans as individuals. One sees this tendency sometimes in Epictetus and Seneca. The early Christian Fathers were fond of Seneca, and could only be so if they saw in his writings some reference to a personal God--though one must be careful in coming to such a conclusion, as the early Christians, like later Christians, would assimilate pagan philosophy in various ways when it suited their purpose to do so.
It seems clear enough that Stoicism need not be a religion, nor need it be religious. Indeed, it may not even be a philosophy, in the ancient sense of wisdom and choosing the way in which to live. We know that the wisdom of Stoicism is fundamental to modern psychological therapy such as CBT.
Well and good. But I confess to feeling a bit disturbed when I see Stoicism used by, and associated with, the worlds of business and the military. I've no doubt that Stoic techniques can have their uses in those worlds, but the great Stoics of the past were not interested in Stoicism as a path by which success in business could be obtained, or as useful in the development of good soldiers. I think it's quite clear that the Stoics would consider success in business and in war as being the result of an undue concern with matters and things outside our control, regarding which we should be indifferent at most.
Whether it is or is not necessarily a religion or religious, should it be one or the other? I think we humans have had and have now more than enough in the way of organized religions. It isn't clear to me that they've done us much good, overall, and it is clear to me that they've been responsible for a great deal of harm. Once organized as a religion, I think even Stoicism would lose much of what makes it wise and beneficial.
I do think it should be religious, though, for reasons I hope to explain. This may be nothing more than an indication of personal preference or desire.
Let me say, first, that I use "religious" here much as it is defined by Merriam-Webster as noted above. If Stoicism posits the existence of a Divine Reason that is the intelligence or generative influence infusing the universe, and if this spirit is immanent in nature, then I think a "religious" feeling results. How is it possible to contemplate the vastness of the universe and all it consists of with anything but a sense of awe, and with reverence? And if acting in accordance with Nature consists of being in accord with the universe, it would seem that by devoting ourselves to Nature is a devotion to the divine that's immanent in the universe.
It may be that in thinking or feeling this way I'm in a minority, because I haven't been able to find any author who sees this as essential to Stoicism, or deals with the religious aspects of Stoicism to any significant extent. I understand Ricardo Salles addresses this somewhat in his work, but his book on it is so expensive I've haven't had much of an inclination to buy it.
One sees the Stoics referred to as pantheists, or the Stoic view of the universe as panentheistic, but these reference are made in passing, and left unexplored, as if there is nothing more to be said. For that matter, one sees "modern paganism" called pantheistic, even by its adherents, but those who think of themselves as Wiccan, or Druids or Heathens seem ignorant of Stoicism and ancient philosophy generally.
Surely there's a religious kind of Stoicism in evidence somewhere? Prepare ye the way of the Divine Reason!
Monday, September 30, 2019
O Tempora, O Mores! Redux--Politics.
Well, there it is. Article II, Section 4 of the Constitution of God's favorite country, the United States of America. And, mirabile dictu, this not altogether clear, but succinct, language of that remarkable document comes to the fore once again in relation to someone holding the office of president of this divinely favored land.
I say it is a wonder that it has done so given the especially degraded nature of our politics and the craven nature of our politicians. Even for an "impeachment inquiry" to commence is remarkable at this stage. I suppose nobody could have expected someone even as self-regarding as the president would so blatantly, and stupidly, ignore the implications of the Mueller report and seek the support of a foreign government in an election in such a blithe manner. But ignore it he did and so he has given heart to those who think his presence in the oval office a calamity, and caused alarm among his venal and submissive supporters.
And so begins a new phase of the farce. Not even Aristophanes could have imagined this administration, and the advent of a diva president. Still, narcissism, ignorance and other attributes so spectacularly on display likely are not treason, bribery, or "high crimes and misdemeanors" and so it would be unreasonable to expect that the president will be impeached merely for being himself. What, then do they mean?
Treason and bribery are somewhat known; at least enough for most to dimly perceive when they seem to be taking place (although our Supreme Court has managed to conclude that bribery, at least when politicians and those who seek to influence them are involved,must be especially blatant). But what in God's name are "high crimes and misdemeanors?" Very few presidents have been impeached, but it seems that perjury is one of those things where they are concerned. But other civil officers of the U.S. have been impeached (mostly federal judges) and what record there is suggests that high crimes and misdemeanors need not be crimes or misdemeanors, technically speaking, and may include abuse of office or malfeasance which do not necessarily amount to criminal conduct.
So it won't be necessary that the president be found by the House of Representatives to have committed a crime, presumably. Yet it seems that not only the president's lackies--there is no other word which may be used as he cannot tolerate anyone around him who isn't servile--but also his enemies think that a serious crime must be established. How else explain the view that an American president seeking the assistance of foreign governments to harm Americans does nothing wrong?
It will be in any case be necessary that there be a trial by the Senate, and the Senators, or at least a majority of them, can be counted on to do only what is useful to them. As it seems that a majority of Senators are content to let the president do anything at all, short (perhaps) of murder or stealing money from them or their supporters, it's likely that if he is impeached by the House he will be acquitted, if that's the word, by the Senate.
Still, it promises to be quite a show, even though the actors are mostly dull, ponderous, sanctimonious, self-righteous, posturing blowhards incapable of wit. We would be better served if members of the British Parliament were involved--they at least know how to speak and would not falter when called upon to utter long, complicated words as may be expected in such proceedings, and even to think on their feet. Absent a teleprompter and a team of writers, it's anybody's guess what our politicians will blurt out at any given moment.
That it has come to this at last may, just may, indicate that there remains some self-respect and dignity in our politics and politicians, and some few, at least, who will when prompted behave as if they have principles and are unwilling to sanction the grosser efforts of the president and his supporters to feather their own nests.
There are disturbing times, when there is no honor even among thieves, and even less among those who purport to govern us.
I say it is a wonder that it has done so given the especially degraded nature of our politics and the craven nature of our politicians. Even for an "impeachment inquiry" to commence is remarkable at this stage. I suppose nobody could have expected someone even as self-regarding as the president would so blatantly, and stupidly, ignore the implications of the Mueller report and seek the support of a foreign government in an election in such a blithe manner. But ignore it he did and so he has given heart to those who think his presence in the oval office a calamity, and caused alarm among his venal and submissive supporters.
And so begins a new phase of the farce. Not even Aristophanes could have imagined this administration, and the advent of a diva president. Still, narcissism, ignorance and other attributes so spectacularly on display likely are not treason, bribery, or "high crimes and misdemeanors" and so it would be unreasonable to expect that the president will be impeached merely for being himself. What, then do they mean?
Treason and bribery are somewhat known; at least enough for most to dimly perceive when they seem to be taking place (although our Supreme Court has managed to conclude that bribery, at least when politicians and those who seek to influence them are involved,must be especially blatant). But what in God's name are "high crimes and misdemeanors?" Very few presidents have been impeached, but it seems that perjury is one of those things where they are concerned. But other civil officers of the U.S. have been impeached (mostly federal judges) and what record there is suggests that high crimes and misdemeanors need not be crimes or misdemeanors, technically speaking, and may include abuse of office or malfeasance which do not necessarily amount to criminal conduct.
So it won't be necessary that the president be found by the House of Representatives to have committed a crime, presumably. Yet it seems that not only the president's lackies--there is no other word which may be used as he cannot tolerate anyone around him who isn't servile--but also his enemies think that a serious crime must be established. How else explain the view that an American president seeking the assistance of foreign governments to harm Americans does nothing wrong?
It will be in any case be necessary that there be a trial by the Senate, and the Senators, or at least a majority of them, can be counted on to do only what is useful to them. As it seems that a majority of Senators are content to let the president do anything at all, short (perhaps) of murder or stealing money from them or their supporters, it's likely that if he is impeached by the House he will be acquitted, if that's the word, by the Senate.
Still, it promises to be quite a show, even though the actors are mostly dull, ponderous, sanctimonious, self-righteous, posturing blowhards incapable of wit. We would be better served if members of the British Parliament were involved--they at least know how to speak and would not falter when called upon to utter long, complicated words as may be expected in such proceedings, and even to think on their feet. Absent a teleprompter and a team of writers, it's anybody's guess what our politicians will blurt out at any given moment.
That it has come to this at last may, just may, indicate that there remains some self-respect and dignity in our politics and politicians, and some few, at least, who will when prompted behave as if they have principles and are unwilling to sanction the grosser efforts of the president and his supporters to feather their own nests.
There are disturbing times, when there is no honor even among thieves, and even less among those who purport to govern us.
Sunday, August 25, 2019
There's Something About 1619
The thought of agreeing with Newt Gingrich about anything is one I find disagreeable. For that matter, the sorry state of conservatism in these dark days is such that I'm disturbed whenever any of its current, usually self-appointed, spokesmen or women begin to hector us.
But being an honest and honorable sort, generally speaking, I find there is something wrong with what is being described as "The 1619 Project" delivered unto us by the New York Times and others.
What I find wrong with it isn't necessarily what the appropriately named Newt and other such pundits of the right find wrong with it, however.
One thing I find wrong with it is the language which appears, like all else on the Internet, unbidden in response to our clicks. The Project, we're told, "aims to reframe the country's history, understanding 1619 as our true founding, and placing the consequences of slavery and the contributions of black Americans at the very center of the story we tell ourselves about who we are."
The wording strikes me as curious. First, there is the juxtaposition of the words "our true founding" and "the story we tell ourselves about who we are." The first phrase purports to refer to something that is true. The second phrase refers to something which would generally be perceived as something which isn't true or at least not wholly true--a story which we, for reasons undescribed, tell ourselves.
The second phrase is more attuned to what I've encountered when reading more modern works of history. They have an apologetic tone to them. The authors seem to feel hesitant and even somewhat ashamed when they come to conclusions, and take pains to let the reader know that they're very aware of the fact that nothing, really, can be known or concluded about the past or indeed about anything, because we and our sources are all culturally, socially, and in any case universally so bent and twisted and turned that we are incapable of knowing what is true, there being no way to judge our truth as being superior to anyone else's. I suspect you know the drill.
The first phrase, though, actually says that, in fact, our true founding was in 1619, and not at any other time. It's a very bold, clear, absolute statement. It is so absolute that it invites a challenge.
Putting any particular challenge aside for the moment, I can't help but wonder if the author or authors of this blurb wish to pay homage to the culture of uncertainty which infuses so much of our intellectual musings these day, but also want to make a point which might be thought far too certain, but for surpassingly good reason; i.e., to open our eyes to what the United States really is, and so change the story we tell ourselves presumably for the better.
Since so many of us have lately taken to making other broad, absolute statements regarding our nation--that it is Christian, that it is not one that should welcome people of a particular kind but instead should keep them out, that at least according to one local politician has in it cities which should remain as "white" as possible--one can sympathize with efforts to show otherwise. But absolute statements of any kind are dangerous and making them does a disservice to us all when those statements are made in a public forum and have political purposes.
Is it even possible to establish that a nation was founded at a particular time? Well, one can probably establish, to a reasonable degree of certainty (how I love this legal phrase) that the nation known as the United States exists or existed at time X and didn't exist at time Y. One can also say with the same degree of certainty that it didn't exist in 1619, and didn't exist 100 years later.
So, clearly whatever the authors are saying, or at least wish to say, is that "our true founding" is something different from the establishment of the existence of the nation called the United States. But what, then, is it? How were "we" founded in 1619?
"We" apparently were founded when 20 or so enslaved Africans arrived in what is now Virginia in 1619. This seems to be perceived by the Projectors (as it were) as the beginnings of slavery--where? Well, it would have to be somewhere where slavery had not already begun and been in existence, presumably. But slavery of Africans and of indigenous peoples had been in effect in the Americas for quite some time. The Africans brought to Virginia in 1619 were removed from a Portuguese slave ship. The Portuguese and the Spanish had been enslaving Africans and bringing them to their colonies in South America, the Caribbean, and Mexico and Central America for a great many years. Since the Spanish held sway over parts of what is now the United States for years before 1619, it is very likely that slaves had been in use in parts of what is now Florida and Louisiana before "our true founding."
If this is true (there's that word again), though, and slavery had in fact existed in what is now the United States before 1619, does the slavery that was in existence before 1619 somehow mean less, in terms of "our founding" than the slavery which came into existence in Virginia in 1619, albeit only 20 or so slaves were purchased at that time? Why?
I'm inclined to speculate that the slavery which existed before the arrival of those taken from the Portuguese by an English privateer (pirate, I would say) is not important to the Projectors because, well, that was Portuguese and Spanish slavery. What's really important, so important as to be the basis of "our true founding" is the slavery that was fostered by specifically the English and, later, English colonists and citizens of the United States who were of English or British descent. Anglos, I suppose they may be called. For the purposes of the Projectors, they were the real slaveholders as far as "our true founding" is concerned. They are, in other words, responsible for "our" slavery, our slave nation.
That would seem to be the point, and I think it a political one. Who would care about Spanish and Portuguese slavery at this Project, or its legacy and influence? The point does not seem to be that slavery is awful, and slaveholders contemptible, in any circumstances. "Our" slavery is what's important. "Our" tainted legacy is to be emphasized. Not that of others.
The influence of slavery on the United States is unquestionably profound. It would be foolish to think otherwise, perhaps even delusional. It's a horrible legacy. To define that legacy, to describe that influence on the United States now, is perfectly legitimate, and even necessary and essential to an understanding of our nation.
But I think it foolish to claim that "our true founding" took place at a particular time when a particular event took place. We should know better by now to attribute great and complicated nations, cultures and societies, and even more simple things, to a single cause. The 1619 Project undermines itself by making such a claim.
Monday, August 12, 2019
Justice and the Law
I'm an admirer of Patrick O'Brian's great series of historical novels set during the time of the Napoleonic wars, featuring as their heroes Captain Jack Aubrey and Dr. Stephen Maturin, members of the Royal Navy. One of the novels caused me some pain when I read it, due to its depiction of lawyers, judges and the law. Fans will know I refer to The Reverse of the Medal, in which Aubrey is treated very poorly by the legal system of the time due to the machinations of his various enemies. I refer specifically to that portion of the novel in which the sophisticated Maturin tries to convince his not very sophisticated friend that he should not expect a just outcome, given the nature of the system and those who are a part of it.
Readers, if not fans, of this blog know that I'm a lawyer and have been one for a long time. It's not easy for even a jaded practitioner like me to watch, as it were, as the beloved characters in a beloved series of novels by a beloved author excoriate the profession in which I've labored for most of my life. I don't think an author necessarily believes what his/her characters seem to believe or say they believe, even when those beliefs are stated so definitively, but can't help but feel a bit downcast when I read, and sadly re-read, that passage of the book.
Lawyers and judges are condemned by Maturin for being devoted to the law uber alles, so to speak. Edward Gibbon is cited as someone who shares this view, and a anecdote involving the great historian is also cited. Gibbon supposedly challenged a lawyer to acknowledge his client was guilty, only to be told by the lawyer that he could not know whether that was the case until the judge determined his client's guilt. Gibbon thought this to be a "miserable" example of sophistry, or used words to that effect. As I interpret the passage, it criticizes lawyers as disregarding justice and morality, and substituting the law in their place. Thus lawyers do not care about what is right or what is wrong, and do not strive to achieve what is right instead of what is wrong.
It strikes me, however, that it is Gibbon and others who think like him who make a fundamental error in judgment, not lawyers. Lawyers understand that the law is not what is just, or right, or moral. Those who criticize the law for being unjust don't understand what the law is, and foolishly--naively--believe that it is what it is not. But, nonetheless, the law is the law.
To address Gibbon's example: "Guilt" in the law is not necessarily "guilt" as commonly understood. In the American system, someone is guilty of a crime if that guilt is established beyond a reasonable doubt. It happens that those who commit a crime sometimes can't or aren't shown to be guilty of that crime because, for various reasons, proof beyond a reasonable doubt isn't shown, or the jury believes it hasn't been established. So it's quite correct to say that one doesn't know whether a defendant is guilty in the law until found to be guilty, even if it's true that they did something wrong and committed a crime.
Happily, I don't practice criminal law. I don't doubt, though, that defense attorneys sometimes know that their clients committed a crime. Because a lawyer would know that it's quite possible that someone who commits a crime may be acquitted (even if the glove does fit) a lawyer may decline to represent a defendant because he/she feels it would be wrong to do so. Or they may choose to do so regardless because in our system all are entitled to a defense, and to be treated as innocent until proven guilty.
That, good or bad, is the law. One might say that the law is what it is for good, sound policy reasons; that it is preferable that such a strong burden of proof is imposed on the state so that it is difficult to prove someone committed a crime even when they did, as the innocent are thereby protected. One might say otherwise. Then one is making a judgment about the law, whether it is good or bad. But one isn't saying that the law defines what is good or bad, or should do so. That's a critical error.
I think one of the first duties of a lawyer who litigates, who represents a client in the court system, is to explain to a client that what is just, what is right, may result but need not result in a courtroom. O. W. Holmes is said to have spoken these words to a young lawyer who appeared before him in court: "This is a court of law, young man, not a court of justice." The judge could not have given sounder advise to a novice lawyer.
The law is a vast system developed over time to regulate our affairs. It may sometimes be consistent with morality, it may sometimes be perverted by it or by a particular view of it, as in the case of Prohibition. But it's not intended to be a system of morality, and we don't respect it for being such a system. We respect it because it's the law, and it would be foolish to ignore it.
Lawyers and judges are a part of the system. They know how it works. They fulfill a particular purpose, and have a particular function. They may perform that function well or poorly, they may practice morally or may not. They may be condemned for being immoral, certainly, but only those who confuse morality and the law will maintain that they act immorally by practicing law, and should not do so unless they wish to claim that the entire system of law is immoral, and are prepared to defend that claim.
I suspect that most won't make that claim, or if they make it won't be able to defend it.
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